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Episode #154-"Response To The Black In America Special On CNN"
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Great show brotha. I've heard a lot of those same excuses from women, tell it like it is Flex! Holla.
Great show, Tariq!
PREACH ON!!!
Great podcast. Yes I thought I was the only one that seen the bullshit CNN tried to preject on BLACK MEN only.
I'm working on a podcast about this issue and I seen some of the same issues you seen.
I enjoyed your podcast. I understand a lot of your points. What makes a female wife material? Besides Oprah lol. I appreciate the comment of how "some mothers ain't shit" because a lot aren't but you can't tell them that. Basically many of the problems stem from self image issues(self esteem).
Do you hate black women? You seem to only speak to experiences with black women with "hood" mentalities" and if that is the case then you need to broaden your horizons. There are many black women out here that are successful and intelligent that you seem to miss. I have not heard of any positive experiences you have had with black women and if that is the case then that is very sad. To me it seems that since you seem to project disrespect for black women that you are only attracting black women who do not respect themselves, but that is not necessarily a color issue. You sometimes have very good points, but then you go off on crazy tangents. I believe that there are lots of good black men out here, but you are not doing a disserve with your negative views. Thanks for the entertainment though because anyone that takes you seriously is jaded.
^^^hmmm the show must have touched a nerve LOL
I enjoyed your show. However, what can we do as a whole to enhance the black community?
You made a good point when you sated if your parents were on low standard shit then most likely you will be too. I think that we have to find positive ways to improve the thought process for these young girls who don't have that support system at home. Since they don't have that they often time have low self esteem and don't mind having three and four kids. This is truly an issue.
However, I think you are talking about "hood" chicks in this show. There are young ladies who just don't care and enjoying having all these kids and living off the government. But then I think about the offspring of the women with this mentality. Their children grow up to do the same thing! This is where the issue is. What can the black community do to reach these young women before they get to that point? For some reason, what is out there isn't helping the majority of inner city females.
I TOTALYY agree with the “blame” game some chicks spit!! That is no excuse! I had a child at 15 and he is my only child and I am 24. I graduated from college and currently in grad school. I have raised my child from day one. I knew that my life couldn’t be over!! I accepted my choice of being a parent and knew I had to make some short term sacrifices in order to have the long term payoffs.
A lot of these young women don’t have positive strong black women modeling for them. Once again I agree with what you said and continue to tell the truth! I hope that there are young women like myself who takes the time out to discuss this issue with other young ladies. They need to see someone who came from where they did and still have success!
Thanks for doing this show!!!
Brandi - Atlanta
tariq you are very entertaining I enjoy your show. And I agree the CNN thing was total bullshit I have my reason for saying that which are a little different from your statement... I understand too you want to place blame also on black women. But I think it is both. Black Men and Black Women. They both have totally fucked the mentality of things because with each generation we slowly lost who we are and what our culture is. Now we have no clue to anything we let everyone else tell us who we are. This CNN looked at the worse thing about contemporary black culture then they showed it on July 23 the ancient new year which is when conscious black people celebrated godliness. NOw we have this CNN bullshit show the worse thing about us which is we are apart we fight too much about absolutely nothing. black man against black woman that is crazy retarded. and this CNN is doing that on solstice time and god celebration. Our thing is we need to learn history deeply then maybe we (men and women) will start acting right and doing right to each other... this podcast means well but just speaking on the typical about repercussions of all this not knowing who we are has lead to 'sista' mom's being how retarded they are. I wish you would do more podcast about learning history cause then we will stop acting like zombies to white power.
Real talk. Thanks!
"Take responsibility for your actions".....more true words could not have been spoken. I say this all the time to women I encounter who want to label themselves "strong black women"....I hit them with the question "What movement are you pioneering?" Just because you raise a daughter on your own because you can't manage to keep a dude does not qualify you to be labeled as a strong anything. Black women need to face facts, if you have been married/divorced several times and/or have multiple kids by multiple dudes...you have made some bad decisions. This is why you are not being reverenced like a queen.
Great Show Bruh! But at the Same time A lot of These Niggaz need to take care of they DAMN Kidz. I'm saying some Niggaz have like two or moe kids from the same broad and don't take care of none of em but they Sitting on 24's Don't sport nothing less than Polo Sport Ed Hardy LOL U know What I'm talking Bout. But the ldies do need to get they shit together as well that's Why I agree with U. But Niggaz Yall MOFOs ain't off the Hook. Take care of your Damn Kidz or at least visit your Got Damn Kidz!
My Bad for the typos I left the r out of more and a out of ladies. But Still Afrikan Men and Women need to get our Shit together. Read Isis Papers by Frances Cres Welsing. PEACE! King Flex I love all your Shows remember I agreed with the show it's just that niggaz need to grow up. That's really what Minority means Minor. We children under White Supremacy Racism. Ya Dig
I have not listen to the show yet but I ALREADY see some bitter comments from black women.
SO ALL YALL HATEN ASS BW THAT DO NOT LIKE TARIQ AND THIS GAME FALL THE FUCK BACK.
DONT LISTEN TO HIM IT YOUR OFFENDED BY THIS GAME. FALL BACK
YALL ANIT NOTHING SPECIAL ANRGY ASSES
FALL THE FUCK BACK
this blame game is getting old and never has been productive.
but IMHO, we need strong leadership by black men in the home.
as a people, we need to focus more on successful relationships and copy their approach.
Who gives a fuck about why black women aren't getting married?
CNN's look into the education system in the black community is way more worth talking about. Fighting for a good education is the root for all this shit.
I could write on this FOREVER! but i wanna keep it short.
First, a real "MAN" is a leader, responsible for his actions and willing to sacrifice for his family...point blank. Take care of ya damn kids!, period. I was trippin on the boy that refused to finish his last year of HS, since when was that even an option? Graduating from HS was nothing special in my family it was expected. If i said i wasn't going, i would be homeless with a black eye and busted lip....where's the father figure?
It's never neccessary to have all them damn kids and you know you can't raise em right. Some of these women are so trifflin (probably casue they momma and daddy wasn't shit) and they refuse to take any responsibility. Nobody wants to admit that some of these women were no good H@s to begin with.
The single/black/independent woman "crisis" BS. Lets's talk about the ATTITUDE that too often comes with that "success." If you really believe you don't need a man....you probably won't have one! If you look for your mate according to a materialistic checklist...you don't deserve on. If you won't submit to your man and allow him to be the man...why would someone marry you?
Finally, you're 1,000% right about the lack of history. They never mentioned the numerous ways the government and white America systematically fucked over black people (male and female) maybe that would've made the white audience to uncomfortable (cue Rev. Wright, lol)
1 question...Do you think the people who needed to watch that special (dead beat dads, dropouts, trifflin women) watched it?...i doubt it, smh
1 question...Do you think the people who needed to watch that special (dead beat dads, dropouts, trifflin women) watched it?...i doubt it, smh
VERY TRUE!! Who need to watch this show aren't!!!
all these women have to do is:
a) keep ur legs closed and for fucking ALL SAKES, don't have kid during your pretty years.
b) be co-operative. How tough is that? U want a leading PARTNER, right?
c) be womanly and pleasant.
jeez man, they play this tit-for-tat blame game, when they have not too much to do.
You're right on point, Tariq. Nobody of note (except Farrakhan) wants to trace Black folks' psychosis back to the days of slavery. My mother falls in the "ain't shit" category that you mentioned: six kids by five different men. I knew this was wrong at a very young age and resolved not to marry a female like her. My daughter was born in wedlock and at age sixteen gave birth to a child because the hoodrats she idolized were doing it.
Good broadcast. I hope CNN's Solidad O'Brian gets ahold of this podcast.
ALL YALL HATEN ASS BWomen THAT DO NOT LIKE TARIQ AND THIS GAME FALL THE FUCK BACK.
DONT LISTEN TO HIM IT YOUR OFFENDED BY THIS GAME. FALL BACK
YALL ANIT NOTHING SPECIAL ANRGY ASSES
FALL THE FUCK BACK
I respect what you said there homie. Both people need to be criticized not just black men, cuz in reality CNN made it even worse for us because we get the worse attention on from our videos on BET, our overwheliming presence in jail and news dealing with crime, and Maury's show of course. It's good that you speak the realness so both sides of this problem are held responsible: not just the black male taking te blame.
Good points about the reasons why blacks are in the state we are in, but when does it change? Just because things were done to us does that mean we can't do better than what we are doing now? Not all blacks are doing bad. They showed blacks that were doing well as well as brothers that were doing bad.
Brother you said something that was "funny" to me. Why should a sister that has her shit together and is going to school should have to go off campus to find a decent brother. So you are not saying that the brothers should be in college in more force, but that the sisters should have to go out and look for a brother.
You talk about sisters having kids like they do it by themselves. It takes two to make a baby. What about the brother who fathered the kid. What is he supposed to do about the damn kid he fathered? Should he not take care of what he did along with her? Yeah the woman is responsible for making sure she is taken care of her self and not getting knocked up by a bunch of different brothers. It's a two way street both are responsible. Wrap it up and make sure you are on birth control for the ladies. Is that so hard? C'mon brother lay the blame where it's due it's both peoples fault.
So now that we know what's wrong how do we start to fix it? I think you were headed down a good road on this podcast when it started but then you got what I think was way off track.
Ok Ross...On the CNN special,they made a ridiculous statement that black women in college can't find mates because there are not that many black men in college..And I said if that were the case,whats stopping them from getting men off campus. There are plenty of blac men on college campuses around the country,but a lot of black women look at them as being too "square".
Now as far as black men taking care of their kids,you are right...Both people SHOULD be held responsible..But they are not. We only hear about how messed up the black man is and the black woman is presented as the victim.Black women are never ever ever held accountable (publicly) for have a number of kids (sometimes by different men) out of wedlock. People are afraid to tell the truth because black women are very offended b this truth.But hey,like they say,the truth hurts.
Some are asking what can be done to "fix" the problem of out-of-wedlock/ multiple baby-daddy procreation occuring in the Black community. And, since we Black men are often blamed for the "non-rape" impregnation of the Black woman in the USA...
Here's my solution: (1)Black U.S. men must adhere to Tariq's Player's Rules, especially with respect to not f*cking Black females less than a 4, on a scale of 1-10. (2)Get a passport: Take Tom Leykis'(Google him) advice and only f*ck females living outside of the USA. (3) If Black men must f*ck U.S. females, quit f*cking the fat and thugly females. Use a condom each session despite her protests. Compel these post-slavery hoodrat-types of females to step up their game by eating healthy diets and exercising their mind and body on a regular basis. (4) Black U.S. males must raise their female standards and exercise self-control with respect to dating Black U.S. females; and, stopping acting so god-damned desparate and "thursty." (5) Visit the local child support court, sit in a few hearings, and checkout how the so-called "victimized Black sistas" use the court system to jam a Black brutha up to (as Biggy Smalls said) "yank him for his paper."
Personally, I visit Brasil (with the largest Black population outside of Africa) and the Caribbean every few months so as to exercise my prostate gland to keep it from getting stagnant and inflammed from lack of sexual exercise here in the States. If I had to depend on the Black females in the USA for sex, I'd be stagnate and inflammed prostate-havin' mickie-fickie!!
This is a big world we live in bruthas, explore your global options with respect to Black and non-black females and you will feel good and look good too! If you do this, Black U.S. females will begrudgingly take notice. I'm a witness.
-- silentwonder
Good Game, Truthful Spit...All of our sisters need to hear this...
Boy...medicine does not taste good does it? Keep telling the truth brother. Keep ruffling feathers until we get it together.....
Bruh,I really dug this show.I am a big fan and I pass your info on to many cats.
You hit it on the head.I wanted to know if you would do a part 2,since last night's shows was about black men.
I saw part of the show,and it really just pissed me off to no end.It's the same ol shit..over and over.
I will also say this....the comments you made about a woman realizing her moms wasn't shit,hit really close to me.
I am dealing with the whole"I don't wanna be like my mother" shit from my wife.
I have been so tempted to tell her that her momma really ain't shit,but sometimes you can't be that raw with folks.
It is some deep shit to have to come to that realization...and most folks never will,but it will eat at them,cause they know that shit's true..
Keep speaking the truth and if they can't handle it...fuck um.
Have fun in Hawaii playa.
Sup King Flex, It's ya boy Big O from Benin, west africa player!
Got one thing to say about this new podcast: AWESOME! You took the time to break it down for a whole interesting hour. You made great points and tell it like it is.
Ya know theres always gon be some females out there hating, talkin shit, catchin feeling coz TRUTH HURTS. Fuck 'em !
We're tired of everybody (racist crackers & immature black females) puttin always the blame on Black MALes. These bitches need to get a serious reality check and take they responsabilities.
They be fuckin everybody, drinkin, smokin all kinda drugs and winder why niggas NO LONGER marry them. It seems in this days and age, they just live for the moment, fuck-tomorrow-mentality..and that's not a good look!
It;s crazy how even the teenage girls be poppin kids wrecklessly nowadays, to the point its so scary, man! I put the blame on the media!
Anyway..i'm out..HAVE A GOOD SUMMER, BIATCHES !!!!
Yo Tariq,
I've had this conversations about 12 times this year. Only about one time has the woman said "yeah, you're right" when I told them about choices and birth control. I've recently been getting harped on by single mothers who dislike the fact that I won't date them. They feel as though they are exempt from all judgment and criticism or...they fail to realize that a single man with no kids does not want to deal with the headache of Strong Independent Single Black Mothers!
Good show. They'll shit on you for it but us brothas appreciate it.
"It's a college not a concentration camp". Funny Bro, good spit.
Tariq, if you go back 25 to 30 years you will see white-people throwing this same issues at bm, primarily. They pulled out that old script and aired-it.
"I had a whole of bunch of partners, be like, homey's mom set-it-off, nigga." Tariq this is pure comedy. LMBAO.
Great podcast, mane.
Shut up, Shut Up, Black Women are the worst race of women in the world. Black Women make terrible companions and awful mothers
Black Womens sons are filling up the prisons of america, why? because the black woman is a bad, poor, sorry, pitful and neglectful mother to her child or children.
RIGHT ON KING FLEX, KEEP THE FIRE BURNING ON THESE SCANDALOUS FEMALES. IT TAKES TWO TANGLE.
It still comes down to fellas to qualify anything they're gonna stick no matter their present circumstances. I bet 50 wishes he had been more picky even though he didn't know he would blow up the way he did.
the black men is fucked up because of people like you. still using nigger in 2008 and thinking it's something to be proud of.
the show on CNN was exactly what we needed to see. so many blacks are just that, black. not doing a damn thing to help themselves, putting down others, not taking responsibility, blaming the white man and so much more stupid shit.
i really enjoyed the segment on the brother in prison who was working on a degree. good luck and best wishes to him.
Good points on the show Flex,I never thought about some of the mothers that way and as I reflect on the places i grew up it's damn true.Good Show
Good show King Flex. You touched a nerve with these women. Glad you did. CNN will not speak against the black woman. This is what black women need to hear.
I think this show was for white folks to see how blacks still deal with racism and struggle in todays society. We already know what is going on in our community. However, we are getting stuck on the blame game and not on how we can do better. What good does it do to continue to point the finger. Every black man and woman can do better! Know better do better!!!
Great Show Flex!
I listened to this show and I found it very entertaining. However as a black college educated woman I am not offended because none of what you are talking about applies to me. The man I am dating I didn't find him in college he is a Military man and I am very proud of him as he is 31 with no children and I am 26 with no children. Being Black in America was aimed towards the hoodrich and neither I or my significant other qualify. We both grew up in the hood, but we chose to move beyond that and make better lives for ourselves. However, the blame game isn't solving anything. People need to learn to step up and take responsibility for their actions. Just my honest opinion.
I'm gonna try and keep it brief...but this show really left me with alot to say. First off I wanna say I've been reading your books, etc. from way back in the day...I believe we are probably around the same age (30) I agreed with alot of what you had to say because alot of the time black women do kind of get a pass when it comes to some of these subjects. I do think you should watch the second part though because it dealt with us, black men. I do feel though that you are kind of giving us brothers a pass here. I am 30, married, and don't have any kids...because I planned it that way, I didn't wanna have kids I couldn't take care of...and other niggas that feel the same should do the same. Don't have kids you don't intend on taking care of! I was raised by a single mother who never spoke one bad word about my father....I learned that he wasn't shit on my own.
As far as black men are concerned...we have to admit we have to get our shit together. I realize there is a system in place (white supremecy) that is at the root of alot of our problems....but so is our mentality. We are the ones killing each other...I live in the NO and black men kill each other out here for recreation. I'm also back in school now...studying a profession in the medical field...and I am the only black male in my entire program! Yeah, there are alot of sistas that ain't shit...but in general they are doing better than us...and they aren't killing each other at alarming rates.
It was a good podcast but I just feel like some of these young boys who already don't feel the need to take responsibility for there actions will take this podcast as further validation that it's ok do run out on their child because "the mother was a hoe" Brothers, please...we gotta step our shit up!
Me, back again, to add a few things;
Man, I hope the next podcasts you'll do will be loaded with Game, or at least teach us about how the system is and how to get our way through.
I'm glad you cut down the ranting, dissin them old bitter sluts at LipStickAlley, talkin about irrelevant news stuff AND now concentrate more on DEEP SHIT !
That's what we want in your upcoming podcasts : "MORE DEEP SHIT (life lessons/stuff) & MORE GAME (play/deal with women"
This show is true! This is what i notice out here and have dealt with women with these problems. Every single thing he describes about the women out here i noticed. I dont want to go on and on
You're right on point bruh, and keep up the pressure. I know that there's many a comment stating that you're only talking about "hood" women, but that's not the case. I still see the so called "professional" woman still rollin with a thug, player, pimp type guy and falling into the same shit as our friend the hoodrat. The only difference is that she has a job. Black women, it's the mentality of all of you that's the source of your pain, wake up to it. If you want good men, seek us out and let us know that. We have options now and don't have to put up with the bullshit.
Great show. Not to go off on a tangent, but you need to check out this brotha on youtube and shoot out your opinion on your next show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YAy5NM7VZU
The State Of The Black Woman - A Washington Post Article
Are Black Women Scaring Off Their Men
The Washington Post By: Joy Jones
Have you met this woman? She has a good job, works hard, and earns a good salary. She went to college, she got her master's degree; she is intelligent. She is personable, articulate, well read, interested in everybody and everything Yet, she's single.
Or maybe you know this one. Active in the church. Faithful, committed, sings in the choir, serves on the usher board, and attends every committee meeting. Loves the Lord and knows the Word. You'd think that with her command of the Scriptures and the respect of her church members, she'd have a marriage as solid as a rock. But again, no husband.
Or perhaps you recognize the community activist. She's a black lady, or, as she prefers, an African American woman, on the move. She sports A short natural; sometimes cornrow braids, or even dreadlocks. She's an organizer, a motivator, a dynamo. Her work for her people speaks for itself--organizing women for a self-help, raising funds for a community cause, educating others around a new issue in South Africa . Black folks look up to her, and white folks know she's a force to be reckoned with. Yet once again, the men leave her alone.
What do these women have in common? They have so much; what is it they lack? Why is it they may be able to hook a man but can't hold him? The women puzzle over this quandary themselves. They gather at professional clubs, at sorority meetings or over coffee at the office and wonder what's wrong with black men? They hold special prayer vigils and fast and pray and beg Jesus to send the men back to church. They find the brothers attending political strategizing sessions or participating in protests but when it comes time to go home, the brothers go home to someone else.
I know these women because I am all of these women. And after asking over and over again "What's wrong with these men?", it finally dawned on me to ask the question, "What's wrong with us women?" What I have found, and what many of these women have yet to discover, is that the skills that make one successful in the church, community or workplace are not the skills that make one successful in a relationship.
Linear thinking, self-reliance, structured goals and direct action assist one in getting assignments done, in organizing church or club activities or in positioning oneself for a raise, but relationship- building requires different skills. It requires making decisions that not only gratify you, but satisfy others. It means doing things that will keep the peace rather than achieve the goal, and sometimes it means creating the peace in the first place. Maintaining a harmonious relationship will not always allow you to take the straight line between two points. You may have to stoop to conquer or yield to win.
In too many cases, when dealing with men, you will have to sacrifice being right in order to enjoy being loved. Being acknowledged as the head of the household is an especially important thing for many black men, since their manhood is so often actively challenged everywhere else. Many modern women are so independent, so self-sufficient, so committed to the cause, to the church, to career or their narrow concepts that their entire personalities project an "I don't need a man" message. So they end up without one. An interested man may be attracted but he soon discovers that this sister makes very little space for him in her life. Going to graduate school is a good goal and an option that previous generations of blacks have not had. But sometimes the achieving woman will place her boyfriend so low on her list of priorities that his interest wanes. Between work, school and homework, she's seldom "there" for him, for the preliminaries that might develop a commitment to a woman. She's too busy to prepare him a home-cooked meal or to be a listening ear for his concerns because she is so occupied with her own.
Soon he uses her only for uncommitted sex since to him she appears unavailable for anything else. Blind to the part she's playing in the problem, she ends up thinking, "Men only want one thing." And she decides she's better off with the degree than the friendship. When she's 45, she may wish she'd set different priorities while she was younger. It's not just the busy career girl who can't see the forest for the trees.
A couple I know were having marital troubles. During one argument, the husband confronted the wife and asked what she thought they should do about the marriage, what direction they should take. She reached for her Bible and turned to Ephesians. "I know what Paul says and I know what Jesus says about marriage," he told her, "What do you say about our marriage?" Dumbfounded, she could not say anything. Like so many of us, she could recite the Scriptures but could not apply them to everyday living. Before the year was out, the husband had filed for divorce. Women who focus on civil rights or community activism have vigorous, fighting spirits and are prepared to do whatever, whenever, to benefit black people. That's good. That's necessary. But it needs to be kept in perspective. It's too easy to save the world and lose your man.
A fighting spirit is important on the battlefield, but a gentler spirit is wanted on the home front. Too many women are winning the battle and losing the home. Sometimes in our determined efforts to be strong believers and hard workers, we contemporary women downplay, denigrate or simply forget our more traditional feminine attributes. Men value women best for the ways we are different from them, not the ways we are the same. Men appreciate us for our grace and beauty. Men enjoy our softness and see it as a way to be in touch with their tender side, a side they dare not show to other men. A hard-working woman is good to have on your committee. But when a man goes home, he'd prefer a loving partner to a hard worker.
It's not an easy transition for the modern black woman to make. It sounds submissive, reactionary, outmoded, and oppressive. We have fought so hard for so many things, and rightfully so. We have known so many men who were shaky, jive and untrustworthy. Yet we must admit that we are shaky, jive and willful in our own ways. Not having a husband allows us to do whatever we want, when and how we want to do it. Having one means we have to share the power and certain points will have to be surrendered. We are terrified of marriage and commitment, yet dread the prospect of being single and alone.
Throwing ourselves into work seems to fill the void without posing a threat. But like any other drug, the escape eventually becomes the cage. To make the break, we need to do less and "be" more. I am learning to "be still and know," to be trusting. I am learning to stop competing with black men and to collaborate with them, to temper my assertive and aggressive energy with softness and serenity. I'm not preaching a philosophy of "women be seen and not heard." But I have come to realize that I, and many of my smart and independent sisters are out of touch with our feminine center and Therefore out of touch with our men. About a year ago, I was at an oldies-but-goodies club. As a Washingtonian, love to do the bop and to hand dance styles that were popular when I was a teen. In those dances, the man has his set of steps and the woman has hers, but the couple is still two partners and must move together. On this evening, I was sitting out a record when a thought came to me.
If a man were to say, "I'm going to be in charge and you're going to follow. I want you to adjust your ways to fit in with mine" I'd dismiss him as a Neanderthal. With my hand on my hip, I'd tell him that I have just as much sense as he does and that he can't tell me what to do. Yet, on the dance floor, I love following a man's lead. I don't feel inferior because my part is different from his, and I don't feel I have to prove that I'm just as able to lead as he is. I simply allow him to take my hand, and I go with the flow.
I am still single. I am over 30 and scared. I am still a member of my church, have no plans to quit my good government job and will continue to do what I can for my people. I think that I have a healthy relationship with a good man. But today, I know that I have to bring some of that spirit of the dance into my relationship. Dancing solo, I've mastered that. Now I'm learning how to accept his lead, and to go with the flow.
Thanks Flex For Keeping It Real Brotha,Everybody Trying To Blame Us For Everything,Trying To Say We Ain't Shit.We Just Got To Keep Our Heads Up...
I knew this would strike a nerve with the sistas...but seriously...
Sistas have been exempt of all criticisms lately, especially when they become single mothers. Tariq's isn't the first show of this nature. If you go on Youtube, you will see dozens of brothas saying the same thing! We see the same thing and many of us who share these observations are not just pulling them out of our asses!
CNN did us a great disservice. They have perpetuated everything negative that has been taking place for the last 20 years and did not present anything new. They still haven't spoken about successful black males who actually set examples and defy the odds. That's not going to get them ratings. Instead, they put this redundant junkumentary on in order to give an even more dismal outlook on Black people in America as a whole.
The CNN special was a complete waste of time. The show should have been over when they stated that a black male with a high school diploma and no criminal record has less chance of getting a job than a white male with a criminal record.
The basis for a strong community is the ability of the males to secure or create employment that allows them to assume the role of provider for their families. If there is 50% unemployment of black males in a community, I can guarantee that is probably a very dangerous community. Compound that with a 70% rate of single parent female headed households and that is definitely an explosive mix. You will see young males who have no legitimate role models or guidance and thus are prone to engage in risky behaviour (i.e. gangs, drugs, criminal enterprises).
BTW, Tariq good show. You always keep a brotha laughing.
Tariq! Iam finna keep it 100! you are a good example of a bafoon! wtf? you must think you a ghetto Dr. Phil or something? And with the why you looking these days you one step from being GAY! which I think you are, what is your deal with picking on plus size women? I dont get it? So you saying every women that plus size need to be alone for the rest of their life. Cause they not a size 2 they cant have a blue collar guy? You talking all this bad stuff, about plus size women. And the only dumb females that would be your fan is the groupie attention whores. That want some of that "KING FLEX" money, so get your mind right chump!
lol, King Flex you hurt alot of feelings with this one and i love it! lol!! keep doin ya thing big homie!
"The show should have been over when they stated that a black male with a high school diploma and no criminal record has less chance of getting a job than a white male with a criminal record."
But that was most definitely true though, in my experience. In country ass arkansas (the Land of NO Opportunity), I couldn't get a $6-an-hr job driving a forklift with my bachelor's (and I had a year's worth of experience already).
"So you saying every women that plus size need to be alone for the rest of their life. Cause they not a size 2 they cant have a blue collar guy?"
Pay attention! He says fat women can't get no baller weighing 300 pounds! Don't be trying to deflect shit on here... you need to deflect them Haagen-Dazzes and them Hot Wings! You sound like my ignorant cousin who got knocked up just so she could have a light-skinned baby. We ain't never seen the father... and ain't going to, from the looks of it... NOW her big ass is complaining that she can't meet a man... What kind of bullshit is that!
If black women have such a hard time finding good black men, maybe they should just ask a white woman, 'cause apparently white women know where to find the good ones.
Man, thank god someone is keeping it real out here! The truth is these women are far gone. There are too many(not all) black women that aint on a brothas side. They are looking at us with the same discriminitory eyes as the white members of society. They have been bombarded and brainwashed with rhetoric and images of how the "black man aint shit." THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN US AS LEADERS ANY MORE. As much as we as men have a hand to play in that, so does the systematic disenfranchisement of black men all around America through poor education, flawed legal policy, and access to assistance of all kinds. Read this article... http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/07/24/study-black-man-and-white-felon-same-chances-for-hire/
Says it all...Brothas, we are under attack. AS a black man sometime I feel like my life is so scrutinized, it seems Im always walking on egg shells. Dont let the black man make a mistake, no matter how small or large, you will be placed in that box of "aint shit niggas". FUCK THAT!
I am the King and my life is my Kingdom! YOU can not kill me and I will never surrender. Not to your fucked up stereotypes, not to your biased legal system, and certainly not to your fundamentally flawed education system! FUCK YOU....BLACK MEN STAND THE FUCK UP AND DEFEND YOUR HONOR LIKE A MAN!
Our legacy is literally on the line here. Too many of us are walking around blind to the mental & economic war we are facing everyday as black men. Its time we prove the naysayers wrong! STAND THE FUCK UP!
Lamar...Atlanta GA
Yo Tariq, this iz Big O !!! africa represent!
Man, SEE THE # of comments for this podcast alone, in just a few days!!!? That means you keep it 100% real on this one!!! I LIKE THAT, Oh yea, i fukkin do! Like 2pac said "My attitude is fuck-it coz muthafukkaz love it"..
The way you break it down on this podcast, you exposed the rule truth, you exposed this lazy golddinggin azz black women's dirty laundry..Those sluts used to get a pass for a lot of misconduct, and we the Young Black Males are always shitted on and dissed in this white-man's-world...
Man, I'm looking forward to your next podcast..with the hope its gon be LOADED WITH GAME..
We no longer want blah blah, no more ranting like u used to do on older podcasts, we want REAL GAME !!
+++The Revolution iz On!+++
That CNN segment was produced by and for those living in the alternate reality of the Matrix. Therefore, it should not be expected that they reveal the truth. There intent was to placate and appease the black woman’s delicate ego and insecurities. The segment congratulated her for her new spending power and being America’s new super-consumer. I only see irony, contradiction and paradox in her. She begs white and black media to broadcast her story but remains mute on her own. She complains about being lonely to magazines and journalists but fails to see how her outlook filters out her wants but lets in her fears. But like many Black men may feel, just let her find her own way. Brothers have tried to reach her to no avail because of her heavy ego-defenses. No use in continuing talking to her when if fails to work. It’s a pity to watch her in this state suffering and knowing that she will not listen and receive the message that will free her of her condition.
TARIQ, YOU DID A WHOLE SHOW ON HOW FUCKED UP BLACK WOMEN ARE AS A WHOLE. I AM A BLACK WOMAN. I AM NOT OFFENDED BY WHAT YOU SAID BUT IT IS HOW YOU ARE ADDRESSING ALL WOMEN. I AM A 30 YEAR OLD BLACK FEMALE. I AM HAVE BEEN HAPPILY MARRIED FOR TWO YEARS WITH NO KIDS AND I AM COLLEGE GRADUATED. I KNOW YOUR WHOLE THING IS TO TELL THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHO YOU MAY HURT, BUT THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO DO IT. CNN AND FOX TO ME ARE RACIST AND EVERY CHANCE THEY GET AS A NETWORK THEY ARE TRYING TO EXPOSE BLACK PEOPLE AS A DISGRACEFULLY RACE OF PEOPLE. SO, WHEN YOU AS A BLACK MAN GET SO FRUSTRATED WITH YOUR SISTERS THAT YOU CAN FEED INTO THEIR BULLSHIT AND TALK ABOUT BLACK WOMEN IN THE SAME WAY THEY SEE US. YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THEY ARE. YOU MUST NOT NEVER FORGET A WOMAN GIVE BIRTH TO YOU, BUT NOT JUST ANY WOMAN A BLACK WOMAN. SO, I ASK YOU NO BEG YOU PLEASE STOP PUTTING BLACK WOMEN ON BLAST. YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF SISTERS WHO ARE FUCKED UP I KNOW THIS AND YOU KNOW THIS BUT CALLING THEM OUT IS NOT GOING TO HELP MATTERS AT ALL. AS ALWAYS GOOD SHOW.
"Do you hate black women?"
"Do you hate women?"
I'm SO FUCKIN' TIRED of hearing this stupid shit out of the mouths of ignorant-ass bitches!!!
These broads have come into some fucked up sense that they can't be questioned about their fucked up mindset and full-on failure to take into consideration the consequences of their actions!!!
Keep tellin' these ABSOLUTELY STUPID BITCHES that they need to check themselves, because they damn sure do!!!
And really, these SPOILED-ASS broads need to shut the fuck up with their completely wrong perception about Black men who are willing (like Tariq) to talk to Black women frankly!
Black men who really love women (not those thug niggas who really love fucking women), will convey to Black women regarding the issues that they're coming up against and are still willing to communicate realism to them, and kick them down some good fuckin' game!
Too many women, Black and otherwise, are TOTALLY unappreciative of a strong Black man!
They only want the pseudo-strong Black man that is only smart enough to support Black women in your sillyness...or worse, they want the WEAK ASS THUG NIGGA.
That's why I don't wanna have shit to do with sistas because they know...they know...
but prove that they don't know shit, but are all about the bluff.
Fuck you unappreciative bitches.
I don't hate you, you're simply just tired ass broads!
Get fresh, become appreciative of the live you've been given, do something, be about something!
Collaborate. bitches!
Don't fuckin' demand compromise if you are unwilling to lose!
Keep it real Tariq! Keep it muthafuckin' REAL!!!
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That CNN segment was produced by and for those living in the alternate reality of the Matrix. Therefore, it should not be expected that they reveal the truth. There intent was to placate and appease the black woman’s delicate ego and insecurities. The segment congratulated her for her new spending power and being America’s new super-consumer. I only see irony, contradiction and paradox in her. She begs white and black media to broadcast her story but remains mute on her own. She complains about being lonely to magazines and journalists but fails to see how her outlook filters out her wants but lets in her fears. But like many Black men may feel, just let her find her own way. Brothers have tried to reach her to no avail because of her heavy ego-defenses. No use in continuing talking to her when if fails to work. It’s a pity to watch her in this state suffering and knowing that she will not listen and receive the message that will free her of her condition.
4:56 PM
Deep
THIS IS 'AtlantaOG'
IM BOUT TO ADDRESS THE PRICK THAT SAID....
"Do you hate black women? You seem to only speak to experiences with black women with "hood" mentalities" and if that is the case then you need to broaden your horizons...."
#1 Do you black [females] hate black men?
because you throw us under the bus everyday...'oh but when you (black females)
are criticized about the Factual Issues
#2 you black females only speak to experiences with "hood mentalities" and if that is the case you females need to broaden your horizons [stop messing with psuedo-gangsters/homo-down low thugs wannabes]
#3 There are NOT many black females out here that are successful and intelligent.THAT IS A LIE
BUT THERE ARE MANY BLACK MEN out here that you black [females] advertenly overlook [because you dont "accidently miss them"]
'oh he aint got no swagger' 'he a nerd' 'he is corny'
#4 You black females NEVER SAY anything positive about BLACK MEN
#5 You haven't made ANY GOOD PTS
#6 ANYONE THAT TAKES YOU [BITTER,MEN-BASHING] BLACK FEMALES IS seriously jaded
#7 YOU BLACK FEMALES CANT recognize and appreciate a STRONG BLACK MAN
Blah....blah....blah....blah. People need to take a look at their inner-selves, and stop with the finger pointing and blame-game! Everything is the White man's fault! Everything, is the Black man's fault. Everything is the Black woman's fault.
Well allow me to add this to the list. Let's not leave the White woman out, for she has truly the one, who has never been addressed publicly on her bull-crap!
I found it interesting that a White man, put this out there! So I guess blaming the opposite race for all your woes, is not just common with-in the Black community! Yeah, yeah, yeah!
http://whitewomensuck.blogspot.com/
Damn Good POINTS AtlantaOG
That was real talk playa
Good Show Tariq. Alot of the underlined issues were not covered such as the psychology of the Black Female and Male on this CNN special. I would have liked to have seen a lot more about the frame of mind of our people being that we have been psychologically conditioned to fail. I would have liked to have seen the story of not only the rape and pillage of our race but the effect that this has on generations thereafter. Only the surface was scratched on many issues, I think they could have done alot better, and our people as a whole need to demand that the whole truth be told and not the BS that is perpetuated on a daily basis by the mainly white media. I think that this "Special" was poison to a certain extent, because so many not only different races, but US-BlLACKS believe all of this crap..Lawwd Help Us, but only under the condition that we Help OURSELVES.
I would say two things to black women respectfully. If CNN, ABC, CBS etc. keep putting out the lie that black men are messed up don't you think people will think that you can't raise children? Black men aren't hatched in eggs. We are raise right along with black girls. Secondly, what makes you think that you have all these options?Other men have their own women to choose from with no baggage. We are the only matriarchal community in the world. Why would a man leave his religion, culture, language, food to be with you? What are the benefits? Why would a man leave a patriarchal community for matriarchal community? Why would a man leave a number one spot for number two? Think about it. Also, how can white and latino women find black men and you can't?
Great podcast Tariq. Mane you always going to catch flack when you speak truth to fiction.
FUCK BLACK FEMALES THESE BITCHES AINT SHIT
Check out the book by Sis SHARAZAD ALI. THE BLACKMAN'S GUIDE TO UNDERSTANDING THE BLACK WOMAN.
The podcast really spoke on some true life shit. I a 29 year old black woman with NO KIDS. I made a decision NOT to have any kids out of wedlock and have stuck by that RULE! No I did not have any abortions and No I was not a virgin either. I started having sex when I was 13 and told myself that I would not have any childeren until I was married. As Tariq mentioned, yes there are many forms of birth control the only one that I used was condoms. That is a concious decision. Yeah shit does get rough and tempting but in that same breath you know what your doing,Both of you, and if your with a mofo who aint concerned about you and your welfare than you don't need to be fuckin his ass then. A Man with self respect will not allow you to fall down such a path. Cuz there were times that there were no condoms and hormones and sex were in the air, However my partners never took it there or let me take it there cuz they had respect for me, and themselves (yes, they were BLACK MEN) so ladies and fellas ya need to check who ya wit before you ever go down that road. Just because you fuck don't mean that you gonna get respect. You need to carry your self with respect. You can't meet a man and tell him your Woman when your acting like a child, Fuck him the same night you met him or shit even the same week. If you just met a man and you think his is worth your time shit possibley husband material, Don't fuck him! If your horney fuck one of your past mates. Don't fuck off your new relationship by fucking him before you get to know him. That is how you get caught up! You turn around and you got 4 kids with 4 differnet fathers.
So true so right. Just too much bad language man